Saturday, April 28, 2012


The following is a guest post by Sherry in response to comments on my previous post:  “SHE’S A GOOD HEARTED WOMAN …”

Soooooooooooooooo many thoughts on this Dad
First being that given the political climate here, whew, brave!!
Second, I thought this post was gonna be about Mom ;-p
Third, you should have said BOTH parties have moved to the right ~ the republican god Reagan was a screaming liberal compared to either party now!  LOL I know that's not true in every aspect but definitely in taxation!

I think you're seeing exactly what Roger Williams feared when he proposed separation of church & state because the invasion of the state into the church had corrupted the teachings of the church. When evangelicals quote lines from politics as if they're gospel, it's very clear to me that the corruption is rampant.  When it's hard for a liberal to go to church for fear of judgment, it's clear that the church is not functioning as the body of Christ.

I would love to go on-and-on about how far the teachings of the republican party are from those of Christ (and I will do it a tiny bit later) but I don't believe people who have bought into it will really hear.

So now some comments on the comments:

Canadian Atheist ~
I think it's sad that an atheist knows more about what Jesus did than self-proclaimed evangelicals and that a Canadian knows more about what is happening in our country than we do.  There is far too much "sheepiness" going on in the church and in politics here.  Thank you for pointing it out.

Gary ~
You are so right about pride.  I know almost every sin I have ever committed was from pride.  Even when I get greedy it's because I think I deserve whatever it is I want.

The sins of pride and greed were condemned by Jesus & throughout the Bible but we don't hear much from the screaming preachers about them.  Why? It hits too close to home.  Much better to attack the sins of others.   Which is, in and of itself, a sin.

And last, my rant that really has nothing to do with the point of the post but about Ken's comments.

Ken ~
Whose fault is it that women are single mothers?  The men who don't stand by them?  (You should know that not every single mom got pregnant outside of marriage.)  Is it the asinine fear of mentioning contraceptives in this country?  The fact that Christians divorce at as high a rate as non-Christians?  Are they poor because there's little tolerance for the demands of motherhood in the workplace?  Because minimum wage won't cover daycare & rent?  Because their ex-husbands don't pay child support?  When an entire group (single moms) is castigated by the "over-simplifying" of your party, one can see why some would choose to abort rather than face society's views.  They're damned if they keep their kids and damned if they don't, and the republican party refuses to acknowledge that hypocrisy, let alone heed what Jesus said about stone casting.

As CA said, Jesus didn't ask the condition of those he helped.  If he'd been a republican he would have asked why on earth weren't those 5000 at work earning their bread & fishes instead of being lazy bums listening to him & getting hungry?

Not to mention how wrong your stat is about "working hardest" - the top .1% has accumulated 93% of the wealth increase since the recession with most of the remaining 7% going to the top 10% and some groups actually earning up to 6% less.  Do you really think they're working 13x or more harder than the rest of us?  The majority of the poor are working poor - many working more than one job.  And where are the opportunities the rich have created with this vast increase in wealth?

"Taking from some and giving to others by force" is an interesting way to view taxes.  Especially a tax that 72% of Americans support. I personally would much rather they take mine and give to poor people than fund the enormous war machine.


Canadian Atheist said...

Wow! If there were a vote up button, I would have voted that blog post up as many times as humanly possible. Since there isn't, you'll have to settle for a Bravo! I hope there is an encore in the future!

gary said...

sherry, i think it is great when we get moved enough to give an opinion. however,many times we can say things before thinking them through. it might be easy to think that Jesus(a real person) committed a sin before He became sin. or the LORD himself is a sinner. i know what you meant to say and the context but all christians are called to be preachers in some way and the politial ones motivated by numbers make me sick.

gary said...

if it's not too long.
One Solitary Life
Here is a man who was born in an obscure village, the child of a peasant woman. He grew up in another village. He worked in a carpenter shop until He was thirty. Then for three years He was an itinerant preacher.
He never owned a home. He never wrote a book. He never held an office. He never had a family. He never went to college. He never put His foot inside a big city. He never traveled two hundred miles from the place He was born. He never did one of the things that usually accompany greatness. He had no credentials but Himself...

While still a young man, the tide of popular opinion turned against him. His friends ran away. One of them denied Him. He was turned over to His enemies. He went through the mockery of a trial. He was nailed upon a cross between two thieves. While He was dying His executioners gambled for the only piece of property He had on earth – His coat. When He was dead, He was laid in a borrowed grave through the pity of a friend.

Nineteen long centuries have come and gone, and today He is a centerpiece of the human race and leader of the column of progress.

I am far within the mark when I say that all the armies that ever marched, all the navies that were ever built; all the parliaments that ever sat and all the kings that ever reigned, put together, have not affected the life of man upon this earth as powerfully as has that one solitary life.

Bill Ball said...

Gary, I think Sherry thought through what she said. It was very clear to me. That's why I published it. I agree with her. And I don't understand what you meant about thinking that Jesus committed a sin. Nothing at all was said about that.

Sherry said...

Thank you CA - very kind.

Gary, I reread my post and don't know what you're comment is referring too. Perhaps you thought when I said "screaming preachers" I was referring to him? If so, that's not the case. I meant the outspoken "christians" in the media today don't speak of the same things Jesus did becuz those sins hit too close to home.